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Gezin: Teves Jan Teves / Rigtje Lize Timmermans (F670)

getr. 20 aug 1915


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  • Mannelijk
    Teves Jan Teves

    Geboorte  26 dec 1882  Tietjerksteradeel(FR) Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Overlijden  6 augustus 1945  Kamp Sint Vincentius, Java [Indonesia] Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Begraven    Nederlands ereveld Menteng Pulo, Jakarta [Indonesia] Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Huwelijk  20 aug 1915  [1, 2, 3]  Singapore  [1, 2, 3] Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Gescheiden  ca. 1921  [3, 4, 5]   
    Type  by proxy (met de handschoen) 
    Andere partner  Alida Geertruida Elisabeth van der Hoeven | F671 
    Huwelijk  30 aug 1922  Den Haag(ZH) Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Vader  Jan Teves | F1263930052 Gezinsblad 
    Moeder  Martje Schuttinga | F1263930052 Gezinsblad 

    Vrouwelijk
    Rigtje Lize Timmermans

    Geboorte  27 aug 1895  Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, the Netherlands Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Overlijden  7 jul 1975   
    Crematie     
    Andere partner  Antonius Johannes Marie Verschure | F815 
    Huwelijk  5 okt 1922  Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, the Netherlands Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Vader  Hendrikus Timmermans | F924 Gezinsblad 
    Moeder  Elisabeth Pijl | F924 Gezinsblad 

    Vrouwelijk
    + Elisabeth Teves

    Geboorte  5 aug 1916  Ajer Poetih, Asahan-Sumatra [Indonesië] Vindt alle personen met gebeurtenissen op deze locatie
    Overlijden  5 jun 2004   
    Begraven     
    Partner  Louis Adrianus Hoornik | F814 
    Huwelijk     

  • Bronnen 
    1. [S207] David A Stumpf genealogy, (Ancestry), 29 jul 2016, mail by David A. Stumpf (Betrouwbaarheid: 2).

    2. [S177] De Sumatra Post, (www.delpher.nl), 6 sep 2017, editie 23 aug 1915 (http://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=ddd:010366881:mpeg21:a0115) (Betrouwbaarheid: 2).
      getrouwd: T. J. TEVES. en LIZZIE R. TIMMERMANS Singapore, 20 Augustus 1915. 9945

    3. [S4192] Mails met familie, 7 sep 2016, mail by David A. Stumpf (containing a mail of Marja Hoornik to David Stumpf of Jan 2005) (Betrouwbaarheid: 1).
      Marja Hoornik to David Stumpf:
      My grandmother married Teves Jan Teves somewhere around 1915. Teves Jan Teves was already in Sumatra, at a rubber plantation called Ajar Poetih. She married him by proxy, we call this here in Holland `met de handschoen trouwen` (with the glove....). I think you will know what that means.

      My mother, her name was Elisabeth, was born on the 5th of August 1916. They also lived at Java, so my mother told me. And when my mother was about five years old, my grandmother left her husband and returned to Holland with her daughter. After some time she married again here in the Netherlands and had a son and a daughter.

      The man she maried again I remember as my grandfather, although I knew there had been a real grandfather. My mother had contact with hem when she was still very young and she told me that he also got married again. However, when she grew up the contact got lost and she did not know where he was and when he died.

      From all the information I got from you and from Henk Krigee I learned that he died in 1945, although you tell us there are more stories. I am very sorry I cannot help you any further, but all I know about Jan Teves is what I wrote down now. And I knew that he was born in Friesland, in Tietjerksteradeel.

      I would like to tell you something about my grandmother, the first wife of Teves Jan Teves. Her name was Rigtje Lize Timmermans and she was born on the 27th of August 1895. I believe she was also born in Indonesia, the former Nederlands Indie and she spent quite some years there. She also had one brother.

      I do not know very much about the way she got to know Teves Jan Teves, but I have heard that the marriage was sort of arranged. She was 13 years younger than Teves Jan Teves.

      Other mail:
      You asked me about my name; Hoornik is my maiden name, I am not married, and I do not have children. My father died in 2000, and I do not have any brothers or sisters either. So, it is a small family so far. My father had five sisters, but they all died. There was not much contact with the family, and the same goes for the family of my mother. My grandmother died in 1975, and her husband died about eight years before that. My mother had a half-brother and a half-sister. Her brother had two children, a boy (a man now of course) who was about four years older than I am, and a daughter who was born also in 1953 just like me. Her sister had two daughers, one who was born on exact the same day as I was, and another daughter who is about four years younger. We had much contact in our early years, but after the death of my grandmother the contact diminished. I am planning to contact my cousins again.

    4. [S207] David A Stumpf genealogy, (Ancestry), 29 jul 2016, mail by David A. Stumpf (Betrouwbaarheid: 2).
      concluded by second marriage

    5. [S4253] BS Amsterdam, huwelijken, (Noord-Hollands Archief), 1 nov 2019, https://www.openarch.nl/nha:5d6f51d7-3522-46a4-bc88-edc9daa5e326 (Betrouwbaarheid: 3).
      Huwelijk op 5 oktober 1922 te Amsterdam
      Vader van de bruidegom Petrus Josephus Maria Verschure, expediteur van beroep
      Moeder van de bruidegom Johanna Carolina van Pelt
      Bruidegom Antonius Johannes Marie Verschure, geboren te Amsterdam, 31 jaar oud, ingenieur van beroep
      Bruid Rigtje Lize Timmermans, geboren te Amsterdam, 27 jaar oud
      Vader van de bruid Hendrikus Timmermans, Koopman van beroep
      Moeder van de bruid Elisabeth Pijl
      Opmerking Gescheiden van Teves Jan Teves.
      Bronvermelding
      Noord-Hollands Archief, BS Huwelijk
      Amsterdam, 5 oktober 1922, aktenummer Reg.4G fol. 45